tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post8162271247752316588..comments2023-09-18T11:51:24.170-04:00Comments on mikescape: Peter-John Courson on Brian MacLarenmike maconhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14035677013054063302noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-84280820469306370312007-02-23T08:25:00.000-05:002007-02-23T08:25:00.000-05:00Bryon - "Oprah Magazine." Tee hee hee.Bryon - "Oprah Magazine." Tee hee hee.mike maconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035677013054063302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-82147406211316154672007-02-23T06:20:00.000-05:002007-02-23T06:20:00.000-05:00ABTW: Yet another reason I'm really diggin' on Dr...ABTW: Yet another reason I'm really diggin' on Driscoll; in his now-famous jousts with MacLaren, he effectively rebukes pomo presupps.mike maconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035677013054063302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-24928298234538192962007-02-23T06:15:00.000-05:002007-02-23T06:15:00.000-05:00I consider myself a "premo" in many respects.Proba...I consider <I>myself</I> a "premo" in many respects.<BR/><BR/>Probably <B>the</B> primary difference between pomo & premo is that the premo never doubted that truth was knowable; it was just that much of the corpus of truth could not be arrived at by independent investigation, but had to be received via objective (over against subjective - vital distinction) revelation.<BR/><BR/>The pomo, in the gleeful rush to deconstruct the world, questions whether objective, "first principle" truth <I>can even be known</I> with <B>absolute</B> certainty.<BR/><BR/>This is why dudes like Koukl and Zacharias get the Holy Ghost willies RE: the ECM.<BR/><BR/>BTW, Johnny Mac has made a fascinating case that pomo is really an extension of "mo" and is just as tied to fallen human mentation as is its epistemological predecessor.mike maconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035677013054063302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-63006005492328452652007-02-22T22:14:00.000-05:002007-02-22T22:14:00.000-05:00Don't like pomo epistemology? Huh? Before Postmod...Don't like pomo epistemology? Huh? Before Postmodernism was Modernism. Before Modernism was Pre-Modernism, the world of Jesus and the disciples. What difference do you see between postmodern epistemology and pre-modern? <BR/><BR/>For the believer "revelation" has always trumped epistemology of any stripe.<BR/><BR/>Postmodernism has dismantled the humanism of the Enlightment. Something apologists have been trying to do for 300 years. Postmodernism is defintiely the evangelists friend. For a while anyway. The postmodern mind is an open door. Or at least it's supposed to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-76114929989457090062007-02-22T17:06:00.000-05:002007-02-22T17:06:00.000-05:00no reason to run away screaming... it's not porn, ...no reason to run away screaming... it's not porn, the satanic bible, or oprah magazine for pete's sake :)Bryonmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483341910569645033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-7750468858352601862007-02-22T10:42:00.000-05:002007-02-22T10:42:00.000-05:00Actually, I fully intend to read MacLaren's book p...Actually, I fully intend to read MacLaren's book precisely BECAUSE of the whole ECM thing... I want to make sure I understand it.<BR/><BR/>I <I><B>have</B></I> been reading MacLaren's blog... and Out of Ur... and a few other ECM blogs of note. I have purposefully limited reading "anti-ECM" stuff so as to better form my own opinion.<BR/><BR/>My impression of MacLaren so far, quite honestly, isn't very complimentary, I'm afraid. I'm not impressed with questioning that which isn't open for question. However, since I don't make it a habit to read only those dudes I agree with, I read his and others' stuff as much as I can - challenging as a "bi-voc" working 50+ hours a week at my day job so as to support my habit.<BR/><BR/>Many guys I respect have read MacLaren more closely than I've been able to yet, and have run away screaming. Many others that I respect have read the same stuff and have been edified. That in and of itself makes me want to dig deeper.<BR/><BR/>But I'll tell you, I'm not impressed with <B>pomo</B> epistemology and deconstructive/reconstructive semiotics. But I'm sure that stems more from my own inherent presuppositionalism than anything else...mike maconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035677013054063302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30394392.post-89378806209017728092007-02-22T10:33:00.000-05:002007-02-22T10:33:00.000-05:00MacLaren is a great writer and challenges our tend...MacLaren is a great writer and challenges our tendency to process all information through party-line filters.<BR/><BR/>If you haven't read the book only because of emergent church paranoia, you're kinda missing out on a good read.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Peter-John. I employ the same policy when I read his dad's writing :)Bryonmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483341910569645033noreply@blogger.com